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what did you think it was?

a LOT of people mean "with their minds eye"

11:06 AM

not their actual eyes

the heck are you talkin about

they confuse visual imposition with visualization in general

when did I say I physically saw him

when you said you could visually impose them

you're confusing me by being confused

11:07 AM

visualization is not imposition

that is exactly what I just said

11:07 AM

is english your second language

no is tulpamancy your second neuromancy

jesus christ lucilyn it is possible to visually impose, impost just means to physically perceive your tupp through X sense

why did me saying I imposed Lumi make you think anything was weird

when people say visually impose they are often using it wrong

why do you think that?

because impose means physically percieve tupp some how

11:08 AM

that is what it means

11:08 AM

that is what that word means

yes, hallucination

YES

I don't think people are "usually wrong"

11:08 AM

but I guess I never asked

you said Lucilyn - Today at 8:29 PM imposing Lumi is important too! I asked what type, you said "visual"

but it's really bad if you're assuming imposing is only visualization by default

11:09 AM

even if some people use it wrong, surely it's not like, all of them..

11:10 AM

anyways, it's mind's-eye either way

11:10 AM

just once you get good enough at it they kinda merge in your head

11:11 AM

but you never actually see what you're imposing for real, you just trick/teach/whatever your brain to think that way

11:11 AM

anyways I still don't get why you thought visual imposition was weird just because I mentioned it in the first place

no I didn't assume that

11:11 AM

you specified that

11:11 AM

ffs

11:12 AM

you can work to the point where you physically percieve them, like how you see normal shit in the real world

"I can impose lumi" "What kind of imposition?" "visual" "WHOAWHOAWHOA"

yeah

11:12 AM

you said visual - imposition

is it that rare to you lol?

it's quite rare to find people who can physically see their tupps

11:12 AM

I've never met one

maybe you're just assuming people are fake-imposing too often

what is fake imposing?

whatever you're claiming people are ACTUALLY doing

and I ask around, full visual imposition is NOT common

when they say they're imposing their tups

11:13 AM

I guess

11:13 AM

a lot of people do start with touch, somehow

11:13 AM

visual always seemed the most basic to mee

11:14 AM

sense of presence is always the most important though

11:14 AM

that's a lot of what attaches the hallucination to the real senses

it's because when most people say "I can visually impost" they just mean, they can imagine in their minds eye their tupp next to them, which anyone with an imagination can do, fuck i can do that, but that isn't visual imposition, that is just visualizing your tupp in your head.

11:14 AM

I am finally getting sense of presence with AJ

well, it could be a start?

that is step 1

I feel like that's how you start imposition maybe

24/7 visualization is step 1 to the classic JD guide

11:14 AM

but that is just imaginging

if you're gonna differentiate so hard

11:15 AM

that's how our passive imposition is

11:15 AM

imposing without even lookin' at them sometimes

you have to admit, imagining yuor tupp with your mind is WAY EASIER and different than actually seeing them

feels the same to me though

11:15 AM

'cus like

how

we don't idle in the wonderland or w/e some tulpas do

11:15 AM

we sorta are just "around" the body's head

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and since that's how we are by default

ellaborate on this more

even that passive imposition

11:16 AM

is a big difference

can you physically see them? like i the same way you see your computer/phone/smart device right now?

idk how talking about not physical stuff is hard

11:16 AM

with not passive, sure

that is really cool

it ain't no true druggy/psycho hallucination

11:16 AM

but like

no I mean like you can see them clearly

we can focus our eyes on the mid-air where who we're imposing is..

11:17 AM

not clearly, cus our visualization is bad

hell for me though, if you can see just a sillouhette, i want tips

but we can think see act as if they are where we see them as best we can

11:17 AM

well

how did you get here? what steps did you take if any, and if not what has your progress in general from day one been like?

try'n see your tulpa standing in front of you

11:17 AM

maybe outline with your hands

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and then walk around them in a circle

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for some reason that like makes it way clearer

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for us

11:18 AM

they shouldn't turn with you though, it's making yourself see them from different angles that helps

11:18 AM

but otherwise idk

I could not percieve her physically. but I am working on visual imposition

we got good at imposition from Lumi imposing the other three (before he made me) at college all the time

like., I imagined her there well, I could see her with my minds eye, but not my actual eyes

11:19 AM

I should be able to though

11:19 AM

perceptions exist on one layer, our brains were just made to seperate the mental ones from the physical

11:19 AM

but that can be reversed

sorry, was listenin to a song too good to not dance to

11:23 AM

yeah idk if I'd say you ever "physically" see them

11:23 AM

we explain it to people as like

it is totally possible to physically see them